Close. If you look at the two scenes from The Grudge / Ju-On where Kayako is crawling down the stairs. The Ring was one of the highest-grossing horror remakes, its box office gross surpassing that of Ring. Their curses have … The Ring is a great case study on how to improve on the original. The Japanese one cemented a fear that I have to this very day - the ONLY THING in the fucking world that scares a fully grown adult BloodBride - Pale asian girls in white with long dark hair that avoid looking at you. SPOILERS for the Juon franchise, the Ringu franchise, and the film, Sadako vs. Kayako. The disclaimer here is I saw the American production before I saw the Japanese original and it's been quite a while, but I have to say that for me, there was a flatness to the Japanese original that made it largely ineffective at producing a good ambient mood. Enjoy! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The original, or the remake. I can't really go into more without ruining the ending, but when you see it you will know. For more than a decade /R/HORROR has been reddit.com's gateway to all things Horror: from movies & TV, to books & games. More people are going to pay to see Buffy the Vampire Slayer in The Grudge than some actress whose name they can't even pronounce, much less recognize. The Ring! Bonus points question: dubs are awful. Visual comparison between Hideo Nakata's Ringu 2 (1999) and The Ring (2005). New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If you watch lots of foreign movies, it may even feel natural, but as a part of a "foreign movie experience", which is still a separate mental model from regular popcorn moviegoing. A wider audience wants a popcorn horror with jump scares, no subtitles and slick effects. Haven't picked up Birthday or S yet. Ringu creeped me out as well, especially Towel Man, who was missing from the American adaptation. The names of the ghost in the two films were different as well. That's the thing with Japanese horror. I also threw in one scene from Hideo Nakata's Ringu 2 (1999). I'd personally advise avoiding the sequels to both series. Again, in the American one, there's a lot more music and sound effects to accompany the crawling. Sadako Yamamura (山村 貞子), also known as Park Eun-suh and Samara Morgan, is the main antagonist of Koji Suzuki's Ring novel series and the film franchise of the same name.Sadako's fictional history alternates between continuities, but all depict her as the vengeful ghost of a psychic who was murdered and thrown into a well. Im going to tell you a little bit about what separates American and Japanese horror. Only nightmare fuel I have. It didn't inspire The Ring, it was the original. Well, in general Ringu is slower paced and relies less on jump scares. The ending is better. It’s almost a necessity that I touch on the American remake, The Ring. The term is 'Yurei'. I don't want to go into too much detail because it will spoil the film. Look at the classics like Poltergeist and any 80s/90s horror movie that did not have a "twist" ending. Koji Suzuki is such a unique writer. Following the success of this movie, it spawned its own sequel and introduced the Western … :S. I think it has something to do with wanting to relax your eyes and not have to be constantly focusing on subtitles. They’re fresh and different. The cast of Rings will also be significantly different than the two films that came before it.Naomi Watts and David Dorfman, who played a mother and son attempting to … Movies. Ringu hands down. Ringu's characters are not quite as fleshed out, and I honestly prefer several aspects of The Ring to Ringu. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Shat my pants while watching the remake. It is a crossover of the Ju-on and the Ring series. For those of you who struggle to watch sub-titled foreign films, The Ring is a decent enough rendition of the original which should enable the English speaking watcher to enjoy the story and frights delivered relatively well. It was released in Japan on June 18, 2016, Indonesia in August 10, 2016 (followed by 4DX in February 15, 2017), and in North American on the streaming site Shudder on January 26, 2017. Steer clear of any wells and we'll get down to Ringu Vs. The American one did not transfer that fear properly. Asian horror featuring this is the one thing I am legit fearful of watching and will be kept up by. The Grudge Is a Real Movie That Exists (and Is Pretty Good) Welcome to all your 2004 nightmares finally made real. Furthermore, white people generally prefer to watch other white people. Each scene has its own cinematic merits, Ringu making the most of fewer resources, and The Ring achieving a visually stunning sequence built on that basis. The difference, I think, is that Ringu is a shocking film, while The Ring is a horror film. The evil never really stops hunting you and you have no real hope of survival. Only thing to freak me out. In American horror there is often a single source of evil that can be defeated or evaded. The book slowly built up a good, tense atmosphere, while the movie just felt like it was padding out run time before dropping the big "oh shit!" Ringu vs The Ring I recently re-watched both The Ring and Ringu and find myself thinking, for the first time ever, that The Ring is the better of the two. There are only very few differences between the two film versions. Ringu hands down. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. ++Plus bonus points if you could please explain to me why the US just remakes almost every major Japanese horror-film instead of just localizing and dubbing them? The other good one in the series is Ring 0 (Japanese). I was thinking of watching "The Ring" until I found out that it's actually quote-unquote "inspired" by a Japanese film. 16. People there are already used to watching subbed/dubbed movies all the time, subtitles/dubbing is part of the movie experience (FWIW, I'm originally from a country that dubs content for TV and subtitles it for theaters). Ring-O was actually a brilliant film too. If you're going to the theater outside of America, chances are you're going to watch a foreign movie. Right in the beginning of the film, the two teenage girls are watching television, mindlessly flipping through channels on a television one says, I hate television,” as the other replies“ Pick something, I don’t care,” many of us fall victim to spending hours indulging on technical devices.These same devices we … I won't say how due to spoilery reasons, but in the American one, they use a lot of unnecessary effects to make it scarier. Horror used to have conclusions and you could leave the theatre knowing you had a scary experience but it ended like a ride. This is a culture-transcendent human instinct to destroy what we … The Ring is an American adaptation of the Japanese horror film Ringu. Really good books.. the third one got a bit odd, but I liked it. For Americans, however dubbing is extremely cringe-inducing (that's actually true for anyone who hasn't grown up with dubbed everything), and subtitles are just... "alien" - it's just not a natural part of the movie experience. I think that the ring is super close, but honestly produced better. I have to talk about the famous scene, where Samara / Sadako is actually seen by the viewer. It's a very similar thing that happened with Parasite Eve. Bottom line is, both of these versions are great films. The production value is through the roof compared to Ringu, and it does more than enough to make it feel like its own movie. American horror can have happy endings. ( Log Out /  Between the films I like The Ring better. I actually think that sometimes it actually hurts American productions, because the end product looks too good and too clean, losing any visceral qualities and grit. The Ring strips away a lot of the unnecessary plot points, like the male lead and his son having psychic powers (made even more rediculous in Ringu 2 when it's revealed his girlfriend is ALSO psychic). But Ringu? I honestly have never had a problem with dubbing. Two sequels were made, including a short film. There's even a giant mutant monster as the final boss, which is what everyone loved about the original Ringu — the giant mutant monster. Some American remakes are pretty good. ++There's a theory that the US remakes Japanese and Korean horror films because the movie industry honestly believes that westerners are lazy and won't want to watch with subtitles. So they remake movies that they feel would have been successful in the US, were it not for the foreign language. American audiences equate quality with slick effects and pristine footage. We see her bedroom, more of her adoptive parent’s back story, the video archives when her parents put her in a mental institution and just more of why she became the way she was… evil. Visual comparison between Hideo Nakata's Ringu (1998) and Gore Verbinski's The Ring (2002). “Ringu” is one of my favourite films, and I … They are all about psychological horror. The American version of The Ring worked so well because we were not used to the Japanese style of storytelling. Press J to jump to the feed. I have to say that Ju-On was one of the first films ever to seriously scare me. Ringu seems almost like a David Lynch movie: a series of barely connected nightmares (though it's a … The Ring is one of those very few movies where the US remake is better than the original. If you haven’t seen either film yet, I’d start with the original Japanese version. I’ve seen literally hundreds of horror movies, and I was genuinely creeped out at the end of this one. ++Plus bonus points if you could please explain to me why the US just remakes almost every major Japanese horror-film instead of just localizing and dubbing them? To actually answer your question both are really great films that are kind of at odds with each other thematically. Ringu and The Ring both evoke fear by displaying the result of over consuming technology. Most horror connoisseurs would say that's a good thing, but in this particular instance I have to disagree. They don't go for the jump scares like we do. Just watch Ringu first....preferably late at night, in the dark. In the Japanese version, the ex-husband was a psychic. Another difference of the two would be the ex-husbands. Presented by Cevetta for JPN369 In my analysis I am comparing the movie Ringu and how it incorporates its values from Japanese society, to its American counterpart The Ring and it's own portrayal of values. It is all about the endings. Ringu (1998) vs. Boring as hell. There's a major theme in American culture that we are the best country in the universe, even though the statistics show a lot of discrepancies there. Menu. Please help a guy out and tell me which is the best way to experience 'Ring'. It’s eerie. In this episode of the Film Face/Off we compare "Ringu" and "The Ring" to see which horror film did it better. Ringu vs The Ring(U.S.) Review. He could see and sense things that others could not, much like a type of extra-sensory perception (ESP). It sports a number of disconcerting scenes. Series - Ringu / The Ring. In the Japanese one, it's a lot more subtle. But that's what the majority of the American audience flocks to. Unlike Ringu, we see her childhood more. The reason why America is an "exception" in this way is simply because watching "foreign" movies is natural to most non-Americans - Americans produce by far the most blockbuster movies and TV content, and those are "foreign" to everyone but Americans. December 2, 2005 Lucy A. Snyder movie, movie review, Uncategorized 0. However, having read the actual novel, Ringu, they both fall flat compared to it. The US remakes them because they think they will find a larger audience using english speaking actors. The kind of thing you take a first date too ;) At the risk of sounding like a elitist twat, seasoned horror fans have kinda seen this all before and are usually looking for something subtler/weirder/more original. I assure you, you will not be disappointed. The American one seems cheesy, but the Japanese one actually scares you. Story. Ringu vs. They're far more suited to cheesy scifi movies on broadcast TV that you laugh at with friends than a movie actually trying to create atmosphere and immersion. The horrors of reality will always win. And the effects of the remake are naff beyond belief, totally ruining the third act. The Ring: Infinity, though, is much more like the films, and the original book series. The original versions are almost always better than the US remakes. It might have been TOO complex for the average movie goer, or just more difficult to translate into film. For this film set review, I had several ideas about which direction I wanted to focus on for the two horror films. The American one uses jump cuts and a convoluted plot. Reiko, a TV reporter and single mom becomes involved with a cursed … They changed a lot of the motives, it felt like it made less sense, the horse on the boat bit didn't gel with me and I was left confused rather than scared. And the effects of the remake are naff beyond belief, totally ruining the third act. Each time I loaded the game I would forget it was there and my heart would skip a beat. To me, there was some emotional distance felt in watching "Ringu" (I watched a subtitled version, so I didn't have any distracting dubbing) as opposed to "The Ring" which seemed to be a far more intimate experience to me. I encourage all of you who enjoy intelligent horror/suspense films to check this one out if you haven’t … In the end survival in a Japanese horror movie is just delaying the inevitable. The screenplay and direction of The Ring mainly stay faithful to the ones of Ringu, however, the final scenes, the seemingly disconnected images on the murderous videotape and the stories behind the videotape differ heavily. It's just one scene, but it was a scene worth making a video for. It didn't inspire The Ring, it was the original. The novel may have been inspired by two M.R. Some times the intention is to make money, some times it's even noble - they see an amazing story and want to make it accessible to everyone. In general, both films are based on Koji Suzuki's novel Ring and focus on a mysterious cursed videotape that contains a seemingly random series of disturbing images. RING/U Does America just suck at horror movies? Sadako vs. Kayako (貞子 vs 伽椰子, Sadako bāsasu Kayako) is a 2016 Japanese supernatural horror film directed by Kōji Shiraishi. I think it goes hand-in-hand with whatever it is that makes so many people reject foreign language films with the lazy excuse of "I don't want to read my movies." I hate to say, that an american horror movie is better than a japanese one, but The Ring destroys Ringu. Jumpscares are for the weak if it's the only thing that is used. The book's plot is leaps and bounds more complex and interesting, but I understand to some extent why it was changed too. Immediately after viewing the videotape, the viewers will receive a phone call, ensuring their death within seven days. I found Ringu to be the scarier of the two but I think The Ring is more interesting visually, more emotional, and, by putting a greater focus on the mystery rather than the horror, flows better. :3. TV Shows. I've watched both, and I have to say that I enjoyed "The Ring" more than "Ringu". ( Log Out /  It's like, he had a mental breakdown during the end of Spiral and he just continued the insanity through into Loop. In Ringu it was Sadako, but in The Ring her name was Samara. I had that scene as my L4D2 GUI background sequence. Ultimately, what stood out to me the most about was how the original character Sadako in Ringu compared to Samara in The Ring. Doesn't bother me, but then I don't have a prescription. The Ring vs. I liked The Ring and The Grudge and several other adaptations of foreign (not just Japanese) movies, but I've yet to see a remake that I thought was superior to the original. Don't bother with the rest. You can read summaries of both plots in Wikipedia by following links Ringu and The Ring. We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. Ringu 2 is much better than The Ring 2, it has to be said. Change ). First we have Japan, THE Ironic considering a certain plot device, but we’ll get to that later. In Ringu, the cursed videotape was short and creepy… like something that came out of the depths of hell. Dubbing is very distracting, because the mouth and the sound don't match. Part of this might be the superior production quality of the American version. As far as why we remake all these movies, I believe it's because a) a lot of people can't be bothered with subtitles, and b) movies in American theaters make a lot more money when they have recognizable actors in them. Of which it didn't really do effectively anyway. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. The book is a slow burner that actually gets decently creepy. Ring is a fine film. R/HORROR, known as Dreadit by our subscribers is the premier horror entertainment community on Reddit. Now, my reasoning behind like Ring better than Ringu is that it was just more overall entertaining. ( Log Out /  Ringu's one of those movies I've needed to watch for years. The sound effects are minimal, and you mostly hear Kayako's moans. In the Americanized version, the son is the one who has the ESP. The Ring (2002) Ringu (Japanese film, 1998), directed by Hideo Nakata. I think the books are brilliant. I prefer the weird cold vibe. The Ring, a 2002 American re-make of a Japanese film called Ringu, is a wonderfully disquieting film. I saw the Ring when it came out and thought it was decent, and ended up reading the first three in the Ring book series a few years ago. If you can deal with watching a subtitled film, hands down, the Japanese one for eeries suspense, mystery and environmental fear. I was confused at. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. That said though, if someone ever remade the film and made it in the likeness of the book, it could be great. As a result, Hollywood has to produce new American versions if they want any hope of capturing American movie dollars. The Ring, on the other hand, is one of my favorite horror films of all time. Lots of people won't watch sub-titled movies - even among the fully literate - which baffles me. 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